@mrbump12- took me 7mins to read, think, and comment, sorry for the repeat. exactly the problem im seenin tho

what happens if u need to take the belt off or put one back on? i think the pin/master link is super easy to work with with a conventional chain. other than that, and i guess the cost, belt drive seems perfect for gear box

shity politicians also pull individual quotes that their opponents said to smear their reputation to make themselves look better because they are about to lose an election. fine, the topic was about carbon bike parts, you didnt mention anything about them or how their effective when made correctly. if you are going to direct a comment at someone for what one individual said put a @ and their pb account name so people know who ur directing it at. u attacked cliff. i defended him based on the info i had. cliff posted that link cuz u lead us to believe u were talkin bout cranks, like a comment above you had brought up. ur info is correct, your argument was not

sadly no, the topic is strength of cranks and u failed do discuss anything about them. Thank you for providing links to websites that design impressive stuff, a freshman in college could do that too. And thank you for checking my profile to assume i am a college freshman, i find joy in the thought that a 19 year old will know less then a 20+ year old in every situation. Like i said before, i was basing my assumptions off of your comments. you made it seem as though you know nothing of the field and have not done anything to change that view. ur right about the "pertinent to building..." sentence, i ment to say "pertinent to the topic at hand". and to prove to you that i ment "nothing personal" and my intention was to not make u look foolish, lets continue this in the pm u sent.

@atrokz--- nothing personal but, you need to read a bit more in your textbook or get some experience in material engineering and carbon production before thinking ur qualified to make and defend your comments. first--- when making a product to preform a certain way with carbon, you cant just layer carbon weave a certain way and expect it to be stronger than aluminum. it takes testing and understanding where the stress is being put on the part to correctly layer carbon weave so it's structurally sound. second----- its not carbon that makes carbon bike parts effective (by effective i mean strength/weight), its the human designing and engineering that makes it effective. I could do 0 testing, weave some carbon in the shape of a crank right now, have it heavier than a saint crank, and have it snap by just pedaling. third---- i can throw out a bunch of numbers too, act like the other commenters before me are less intelligent as I, and get positive props on pb. By only seeing the comments you posted I can say ur argument is flawed. Ur info is correct but not pertinent to building mountain bike products. fourth (and "what I am trying to accomplish here")---- please dont say carbon cranks are stronger and assume u can argue a point just cuz a book says carbon alone is. Carbon dosnt make cranks strong, engineers that are intelligent with college degrees do.

^100% true. its seems like only a few people on pb understand pre world cup season race tactics. I wouldnt be surprised if sam tried at this race just to shut half the people on this website up

everything on pinkbike= a joke/not serious at all. when it's on vital... thats when shits on the record